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Post by stareye » 2008-03-25 19:57

Knowing wrote:哈,我还很金斧头的以为是卫星电视捏。又金斧头的说,那么高打球不怕风大么?我们在四十层楼顶层会议室开会,风大的时候还觉的晃悠。。。。
那么大的卫星电视灶?我笑s了。 :f23: 不过Knowing的观察力还是很强滴, 如果我不知道他们有个网球场,我就会看不见那个盘盘。

风大的问题我倒还没想过, 我就老想着会不会腿软。 :f16: :f16:

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Post by StarryNight » 2008-03-25 22:51

Dubai is now the hottest building spot in the world

The Burj Dubai Tower -- the tallest building in the world
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Dubai World Island
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毛毛虫的另一个角度
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Post by thursdaynigh » 2008-03-25 22:52

我每次看央视的大楼总是想起巴黎的这栋. 虽然人家没有扭来扭去的。

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Post by thursdaynigh » 2008-03-25 23:07

大家注意到那个七星酒店的顶上的那个圆盘状的东西没? 那是个空中网球场, 好象阿加西(?)还被邀在上面打过网球。
是的, 阿加西和federer在上面打过球.

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球掉下去倒也罢了, 人看上去跑激烈了都会冲出去的样子。

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Post by 豪情 » 2008-03-25 23:31

看的我腿都软了. :action077:

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Post by saveas » 2008-03-25 23:52

我觉得腿很软。

说实在的,看见水立方和鸟巢,我第一个反应是脏了怎么办――北京那么暴土扬场的。

神啊我已经快被铺天盖地的奥运宣传烦死了,这才只点了砣火炬,接下来的日子可怎么熬。我现在了解为嘛有人会做一个倒计时,上写离奥运会结束还有多少多少天。

更不要说我们在天津北京的供应商可能会被勒令停产很长一段时间……那我们真是要被逼上吊。

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Post by 豪情 » 2008-03-26 0:01

更不要说我们在天津北京的供应商可能会被勒令停产很长一段时间……那我们真是要被逼上吊。
为什么? 你们干啥坏事了?

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Post by 狸狸 » 2008-03-26 0:18

豪情 wrote:
更不要说我们在天津北京的供应商可能会被勒令停产很长一段时间……那我们真是要被逼上吊。
为什么? 你们干啥坏事了?
大概是制造不良的声音气味烟尘,不够保护世界人民的身心健康,不够格调吧
Perhaps we grows very strong, stronger than Wraiths.
Lord Smeagol? Gollum the Great? The Gollum!
Eat fish every day, three times a day, fresh from the sea.

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Post by 豪情 » 2008-03-26 0:21

我义正词严地说, 就是不开奥运会也不能危害首都人民健康啊.

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Post by 狸狸 » 2008-03-26 0:21

真的很烦,从未象奥运年这样想移民
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Post by 狸狸 » 2008-03-26 0:25

豪情 wrote:我义正词严地说, 就是不开奥运会也不能危害首都人民健康啊.
人家的意思本来就是说平常你危害一下可以/只危害首都人民可以。
Perhaps we grows very strong, stronger than Wraiths.
Lord Smeagol? Gollum the Great? The Gollum!
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Post by 豪情 » 2008-03-26 0:32

唉人家好好地贡献GDP交税,否则奥运会的经费哪里来. 真开了奥运会又被嫌弃见不得人, 我看着都同情.
真的很烦,从未象奥运年这样想移民
你要是想着全世界人民争先恐后往中国挤, 感觉就好多了.

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Post by saveas » 2008-03-26 0:37

豪情 wrote:
更不要说我们在天津北京的供应商可能会被勒令停产很长一段时间……那我们真是要被逼上吊。
为什么? 你们干啥坏事了?
那是电路基板厂商,属污染企业――当然了,人家的排出物都要处理先,我们很有格调的对供应商要求很高。可是在那个期间政府可不就是有错杀无放过,不管是啥只要是污染企业就有可能不准你生产。

其实真停产也没啥,但至少得提前仨月通知啊,就怕事到临头来一纸红头文件,那真是做什么都没得挽回。不过以这政府的弱智程度,事到临头的可能性很高。

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Post by saveas » 2008-03-26 0:38

豪情 wrote:唉人家好好地贡献GDP交税,否则奥运会的经费哪里来. 真开了奥运会又被嫌弃见不得人, 我看着都同情.
奋力点头,就是这么回事儿啊。

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Post by 日朗 » 2008-03-26 3:18

那迪拜塔现在大大地超出工期了,供应他铝制建材的一家法国公司还倒闭了,不会是一个巴别塔吧

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Post by 日朗 » 2008-03-26 3:20

你们好歹还在国外,我们身处其中家门口还有奥运场馆日子就更别提了,现在连理财的节目都改成美食指南了 :speechless001:

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Post by pomo » 2008-03-26 3:21

奥运简直扰民 :twisted: 我被那些要我们热爱奥运的宣传弄得非常讨厌奥运。

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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-03-26 7:32

这网球场是谁设计的,怎么一点安全生产的意识也没有? :preston_robot_nocollar:

而且我觉得那个场地比标准场地小,也不知是心理作用还是移情作用。

奥运再怎么着也就是小半年,不过可以增长很多新见识,年年都一样多乏味,这说不定是100年以内最隆重的奥运了,多好玩。

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Post by karen » 2008-03-26 8:12

那是个球场啊。。。我也看得脚软,怎么栏杆这么矮? :f19: 而且小K说得对,那么高的地方得多大的风,球不得被吹得掉个满地。
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Post by karen » 2008-03-26 8:22

对了,说那个沙特王子出外吃饭帐单两千小费四千的, 他们是包下了正个馆子一晚上吗? 要那样一晚上给个六千也不算天方夜谭,当然仍很豪华啦。
假设说一粒小馆子十五个桌子,每桌转三趟,每桌平均一百,这样即使没有撒金如土的王子光顾,一晚上的营业收入也有四千五啦。 王子要是把整个馆子都包下来,馆子没法做别的顾客的生意,那他是应该补赏店面。 我想他们出门带二十个保镖的,大概店里没别人。
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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-03-26 8:40

两倍小费等于再翻两次桌,不过要假设餐馆满座。而且他们好像也没开party?就两口子而已,把王子送出门还是可以招待其他客人的。

这王子就带了一个老婆?真是纯洁可爱。

网球场改成露天茶座一定很棒,不过也许成功人士不像我这么怕死。

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Post by 豪情 » 2008-03-26 9:06

美国的移民签证啥的只承认一个老婆.而且我很怀疑王子什么时候同时带超过一个老婆. 穆斯林的多妻制, 每个老婆有自己的家, 老死不相往来的. 不会没事开桌麻将. 说不定王子这一头家, 就在美国, 象OBAMA老爸那样.

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Post by Knowing » 2008-03-26 9:41

OBAMA老爸不是穆斯林, OBAMA老爸的老爸才是穆斯林, 有好几个老婆.

OBAMA老爸是胡兰成风格的,打一枪换一个地方,一路走一路结婚生孩子,结了没几年要搬家,没事儿人似的跟老婆说钱不够我先过去安顿下来接你和孩子,然后就走了,到新地方半个字不提别处有老婆孩子,又勾搭上一粒新的。嗯,就是我们常说的"在另一个大陆上发生的,不算出轨"。
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Post by Jun » 2008-03-26 9:48

Serial monogamy.
此喵已死,有事烧纸

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Post by karen » 2008-03-26 9:50

我好奇放狗查人, 是不是这个Prince Bandar bin Sultan,前沙特驻美的大使? 谁说他房子五米就能买下来的? 他在Aspen的豪宅要价$135米! 我还记得去年有这么起轰动一时的事儿,说这是世界上最贵的豪宅。

嘻嘻,还有人家拿出来挥霍的金子可不是自家的油钱,你当人家那么好宰啊? 人家的帐户每年有英国国防公司自动进账贿赂。 猜猜是多少? 很果汁的数目! :-D

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6728773.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6260850.stm
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Post by silkworm » 2008-03-26 10:01

我又听了一遍,下面是确凿信息和数字:
对,就是Prince Bandar,沙特国王的兄弟,前驻美大使。
他的房子是210,000平方尺。
他和夫人带两个客人来吃饭,12个保镖,12个CIA保镖,有的在门外执勤,端机关枪。
餐费2000刀,付8000刀,小费费率百分之三百。

节目链接(The Story With Dick Gordon From American Public Radio):
http://thestory.org/archive/?b_start:int=10
Thursday, March 13 2008的节目,后半段,Listener Follow-up: May I take your order?,在大约37分钟的时候开始。

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Post by karen » 2008-03-26 10:05

这个沙特王子哪儿敢带小老婆出门,他老婆的身份比他可贵重多了。 伊是个真正的公主(爹是沙特国王King Faisal),他只是个王子跟小老婆生的孩子,当年他爹都不认他。
Faisal's daughter, Haifa, is married to his nephew Bandar ibn Sultan, the former long-serving Saudi ambassador to the United States and current Saudi national security advisor. Bandar, the son of an African concubine, had been all but disowned by his father Sultan at the time, due to his perceived inferior lineage. Faisal, however, forced Sultan to recognize Bandar as a legitimate prince by giving Bandar his own daughter's hand in marriage, thus breaking a major taboo in Saudi society at the time.
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Post by Knowing » 2008-03-26 10:13

真果汁真果汁!
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Post by 豪情 » 2008-03-26 10:17

再多点. 为什么国王会为他破例?

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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-03-26 10:21

120米,但是,这是英镑啊英镑,再但是一下,是英国王室的三倍多。

我得感叹一下, flesh 引擎真是高效又强大,再往下该贴照片了,可惜美貌的小老婆照片大概不好找。
再多点. 为什么国王会为他破例?
看到小伙子精明能干?

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Post by 海阔天空 » 2008-03-26 10:33

Beyond

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Post by karen » 2008-03-26 10:36

我没了,把现找的果汁都贡献出来了。真的感谢wikipedia, 啥都有啊。 :-D
我记的去年年底出的这场丑闻,英国的国防公司BAE为了从沙特政府拿到笔很大的军火生意,给这个王子行贿。 说是有十几年了,每年在他的瑞士银行帐户上放个一百米的。
要说国防公司行贿这事儿还挺普遍的,不是这十年美国抓得特别紧。 前几年有个在空军掌握实权的管理跟波音有些瓜葛,甜头比这个差远了, 也就是退休后被波音请了去做顾问,并给她的孩子找了份好差事。 结果被查出来判了刑,伊经手的生意也被从新检查了番。
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Post by karen » 2008-03-26 10:45

果汁果汁!

http://www.harpercollins.com.au/global_ ... 9867&tc=cx
The Prince
The Secret Story of the World's Most Intriguing Royal, Prince Bandar bin Sultan

by William Simpson


Chapter Excerpt


Chapter One

Who is Prince Bandar?

"All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes, to make it possible."
T. E. Lawrence,
"The Seven Pillars of Wisdom"1

Fifty-seven years ago, inside a traditional Bedouin tent, a young servant girl gave birth to her only child, a boy. But for one detail, the birth of a child to a young mother of indifferent, even insignificant status, deep in the desert, would be of import to very few. That singular detail, however, was important, for the father of the infant boy was Prince Sultan bin Abdul Aziz Al-Saud, a member of the royal family and son of the founder of Saudi Arabia, King Abdul Aziz bin Abdul Rahman Al-Saud―known in the West as Ibn Saud.
At the time, Saudi Arabia itself was still in its infancy, for not until 1932 did Ibn Saud unify the diverse tribal regions in the center of the Arabian peninsula, rename the country the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, and name himself as its first king.*

The formation of modern Saudi Arabia did not come about easily. In the early nineteenth century, members of the Al-Saud tribe ruled Najd, a central and physically isolated region, which included the holy cities of Mecca and Al Medina. In 1811, the Ottoman sultan asked Muhammad Ali, ruler of Egypt, then part of the Ottoman Empire, to depose Al-Saud. Ali sent two of his sons to invade Najd, and in 1818, his second son, Ibrahim Pasha, captured Dir'iyyah, the capital. Its ruler, Abdallah ibn Saud, was sent into exile, first to Cairo and then to Constantinople, where he was beheaded. With his death, so too died the first Saudi state.

A second Saudi state emerged in 1824, when Turki bin Abdallah bin Saud bin Abdul Aziz bin Muhammad Al-Saud, ousted the Egyptians from Najd and established Riyadh as his capital. Although this second state prospered initially, internal disputes saw the leadership change hands within the family until Faisal bin Turki took charge in 1843. Under Ibn Turki's leadership, order prevailed. Yet his death in 1865 marked the return of disorder and strife. In 1891, the Ottoman Rashidi tribe defeated that of the Al-Saud, forcing its leader, Abdul Rahman―grandfather of the present King Abdullah and great grandfather of Prince Bandar―to flee into what is now Kuwait. He was exiled with his family, including his son Abdul Aziz. With Rahman's exile, the second Saudi state came to an end.

Abdul Aziz, who would become known as Ibn Saud, spent the remainder of his childhood in Kuwait, where he attended the daily governing councils, majlis of the emir of Kuwait,* from whom he learned about the wider world. Seeking to restore the kingdom to the Al-Saud, Abdul Aziz set out in 1901 with a small number of warriors intent on recapturing Riyadh. Luck and audacity favored him when, on the night of January 15, 1902, he scaled Riyadh's walls with only twenty men and laid in wait for the Rashidi governor, Ajlan. The following morning, Abdul Aziz and his raiding party attacked, killing Ajlan and launching a campaign that would ultimately give rise to the third Saudi state. Over the next thirty years, Ibn Saud would gradually seize control of each of the tribal regions. In 1932, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia was born.

Though born into the royal family of Ibn Saud, Bandar bin Sultan's future was far from certain. His mother was Khizaran, a dark-skinned sixteen-year-old commoner from the province of Asir, located at the southern end of Saudi Arabia. It was a desolate place of vast plains and salt marshes, hostile mountains, and deep ravines. Its seaports, however, had allowed centuries of interaction with both Yemen and the Horn of Africa.

Though his father, Prince Sultan, was one of the Sudairi Seven,* the seven sons of Ibn Saud and Princess Hussa bint Ahmed al-Sudairi, one of King Abdul Aziz's favored wives, the boy's birth was inauspicious. Bandar is now quite blunt about his place in the Saudi royal family, saying, "I was conceived out of wedlock and my mother was a concubine."

Although his dark-skinned mother was but a servant in his father's household and they were unmarried, Islamic law protects illegitimate children if recognized by their father, and Bandar's father acknowledged the birth. "My father recognized the pregnancy of my mother before I was born," recounted Bandar. "That is the reason why I was born in King Abdul Aziz's tented camp in Taif. He personally, King Abdul Aziz, named me with four other kids." That naming by the king effectively established the boy's pedigree as royal. Yet there was still a separation―a distancing of the prince from the other sons born to Prince Sultan's many wives.

The birth of a child to an Arab prince and a concubine, though perhaps romantic, was not without pathos. Bandar's mother had been a servant girl before becoming a concubine to the twenty-year-old Prince Sultan, who had been appointed governor of Riyadh in 1947. Bandar remembers, "My mother was not related to any tribal leader that would provide me with power, nor was she from a royal family." Having lived in the Asir Province of Saudi Arabia, which nestles across from Africa, Khizaran was darker skinned, a feature she passed on to her son Bandar, who is noticeably darker than his brothers. It has been a common misconception in the U.S. press that the prince's mother was African.
Bandar often derives curious enjoyment from knowing the truth of a situation while the media speculates endlessly and wrongly about him, and he has made no attempt to explain the geographical background to his mother's heritage. He confessed, "I coyly let that stand for a long time, because as you know by now, I enjoy knowing something that the whole world is talking about mistakenly and I know that it is not true."

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Post by Knowing » 2008-03-26 10:54

太长了,你给摘要个浓缩果汁版,着重突出有金钱,色情和暴力的部分。
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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-03-26 10:59

至少也要拿红笔划个重点嘛。

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Post by karen » 2008-03-26 11:11

你们真懒,果汁也要我给个bullet point总结, 活生生powerpoint时代啊。 :renske: 我把果汁段子上色啦。
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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2008-03-26 11:25

要是我看的文档也都提前有人给上好颜色就好了。我看完非常满意地说。
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Post by Knowing » 2008-03-26 11:27

原来就是个宫女,生了孩子才给提的贵人。
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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-03-26 11:32

raspberry and orange , 很好

Knowing 你真庸俗,孩他爹犯错误的时候才20岁,多浪漫

刚才看到北京航站3号楼的新闻,造价270亿 RMB ,真烧钱啊。

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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2008-03-26 11:36

火星同学,沙特王子在地球的这件事好像不被当地认为是犯错误哦。
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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-03-26 11:46

一堆 available 的贵族小姐,他非要和 servant girl 搞在一起,难道还要给他发奖章?我以封建家长的口吻说。

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Post by silkworm » 2008-03-26 11:56

贵族小姐虽然available,但是哪有24/7近水楼台呵。而且还得过手续呢。

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Post by Knowing » 2008-03-26 12:01

我想了很久不明白为什么火星狗觉的这事儿浪漫 :confused007:
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Post by 豪情 » 2008-03-26 12:02

这个新果汁真文艺, 不如前面引的言简意赅. 加了色还绕来饶去的.

哪有那么温情, 前面不是说他父亲不认他直到国王嫁公主给他么. 有人评他是GATSBY大概也没错.

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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-03-26 12:19

因为年轻好看嘛,我的标准很低的 :mrgreen:

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Post by tiffany » 2008-03-26 13:03

大家们对果汁的要求也太低了,我很不满足的说。
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Post by 森林的火焰 » 2008-03-26 13:14

康熙不是曾经说他哪个儿子是“辛者库贱妃所生“么,原来在沙特有现代版 :shock:
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Post by wuliaotou » 2008-03-26 17:12

森林的火焰 wrote:康熙不是曾经说他哪个儿子是“辛者库贱妃所生“么,原来在沙特有现代版 :shock:
是老八,给太多清穿荼毒过得我很快提供答案

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Post by 栀子花开 » 2008-03-26 21:09

对对 老娘是良妃,参见《寂寞空庭春欲晚》

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Post by Knowing » 2008-03-26 21:19

耶!著名后妈匪大的力作。
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